JeffK969 wrote: The difference being the support for 15 will go until 2027 I believe. That's more than twice as long, so to me it evens out.
I did not know this.
JeffK969 wrote:I'm also not a fan of getting the two for one. Ultimate and Ultimate Lite. I believe each should stand on it's own merit, and be sold separately. After all, I paid for Lite 15 which isn't out yet.
Agreed. This falls into "opinion." Zorin gave good reasons why the bundled it, as well.
Admittedly, I have never like bundles much.
JeffK969 wrote:They expressed a discount. I would love a discount. But would they go into a store to buy a pair of jeans and say I've been wearing Levi's a long time or shopping in your store for years and think I should get a discount? And that's at a store, most likely a big company which makes plenty of profit. But to ask 2 young men who spend the better parts of their young lives doing this. Does that seem appropriate?
I really agree on this one. I got pretty testy on this issue sometime back when a lot of people that had bought 12.4 sometime in the past wanted a discount on 15 or even a "Free Upgrade." My Politometer broke down that day.
JeffK969 wrote:Would they ask M$ for office or windows 10 at a discount? No, they'd move to Linux.
I'd have no qualms asking MS for a discount but I wouldn't see the point given the product you would be getting.
JeffK969 wrote:In the link Svatas posted,"Are there any plans to somehow bring advantage for long term supporters? Otherwise from my side you will not get any money when I can not feel I can
get something for the money. My feeling right now is that people behind ZorinOS have chosen business..."
He may be 100% correct. I ask, is Zorin not a business? Are they to foot the bill out of pocket and give it away?
I did not read the link so that quote is new to me. I disagree with it. To act like they feel like they are not getting something for the money is not a realistic statement.
As it stands, Zorin Lite, Core and Educational all can be obtained without spending any money at all and all three of those are VERY good Operating Systems. Ultimate stands as a way of supporting the project and while it offers more bundled software, it does not provide a Better Operating System. You still get the same great system no matter how much you spend. Should long term supporters get an advantage? I am in two minds on this one. Because while sound in principle, it seems unnecessary. If I bought Zorin6, Zorin9, Zorin12, but did not want to buy 15 Ultimates, I would download Zorin 15 Core freely and still be just as well off as I was with 6,9,12 Ultimates. I mean, there already IS that advantage. Core. Lite. -shrug-
JeffK969 wrote:There has to come a point where people stop asking for stuff at someone else's expense. But maybe I'm just a jerk.
I did want to make the point that both posters above did not ask for a Free Product that I saw and that it is commendable and valid to speak up to a Doubled Price.
Prices may slowly increase but when Dr. Pepper went up by 40 cents for a 20 oz- I got loud about it. And gas prices? ugh.
But a jerk, no- your points are strong and valid and I find your attitudes honorable. And sadly lacking in modern Society.
Fair is fair.
But given many things you have said on this board, I wish you were my next door neighbor instead of the jerk that "Borrows a tool" only to keep "forgetting" to return it.