XFCE 4.16 and CSD's

I make themes for XFCE which are built in two modes
For use alongside gtk3-nocsd and for use on a system that uses csd.
And, I watch the Download count for each.

This is interesting as the download count for use alongside gtk3-nocsd is higher on ALL Themes than it is for the one for csd.
The difference varies per theme, but can be between 5% higher and 30% higher.
You see, the lead developers for XFCE that have been pushing for 4.16 to go full csd have repeatedly claimed that most users are antipathetic about csd or largely supportive of the changeover.
If this is true... then why are more users going to the extra trouble of installing gtk3-nocsd and getting themes to match?
Easy answer: It is not true. And the Lead Developers already know it. They are not new to lying about it, either, having previously lied with the claim that they put the idea of changing to full csd to a Vote with all developers weighing in- Until the other developers voiced up ala Berman vs.Barr and outted them for not telling the truth.

Make no mistake, I love XFCE, I think its the best that Linux has to offer as a desktop experience, on top of Zorin OS. Having said that however, I don't approve of the mindset that XFCE developers have gotten themselves into. They seem to have lost sight of what Linux is truly about. If only it were possible to buy the XFCE project, so that we may keep it free the way it was, instead of going total Microsofty Gnome like.

star treker wrote:Make no mistake, I love XFCE, I think its the best that Linux has to offer as a desktop experience, on top of Zorin OS. Having said that however, I don't approve of the mindset that XFCE developers have gotten themselves into. They seem to have lost sight of what Linux is truly about. If only it were possible to buy the XFCE project, so that we may keep it free the way it was, instead of going total Microsofty Gnome like.

I admit, I loved XFCE when I discovered it. It is highly configurable.
But buggy. I was tweaking and fixing and modifying for a few weeks after installing it. If it wasn't for Misko and MrEen and Toz on the XFCE forum, I'd never have made it.
Cinnamon (Mate) desktop really is preferred for me, now. It works. Much better support, much, MUCH fewer bugs. Old Gnome 2 feel. I have no clue who is on the Cinnamon Mint forum, nor have I joined there, nor have I asked any questions about how to fix it nor have I ever needed to.
In the last few months, I have had so little fixing to do on my computer that I am bored with my computer, now.

As you know I prefer LXQt - the Qt variant of LXDE - and according to a recent article I posted a link to is lighter than xfce.