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Ubuntu 13.04

Wolfman

Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:53:00 am

Hi all,

I just installed 13.04 (Beta) and it is much the same as 12.04/10, a little bit faster and a few new optical enhancements but nothing more much to Report.

DON'T INSTALL THE ATI GRAPHICS DRIVERS (FGLRX) AS IT WILL CAUSE YOUR TOP PANEL TO VANISH!!!.

I am using it with the Unity DE and also tried Cairo dock, nothing really more to Report.

Regards Wolfman :)

madvinegar

Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:30:29 pm

Pear 7 looks very nice though!

Wolfman

Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:42:46 am

Hi all,

I did say that there isn't much to report about ubuntu 13.04, well maybe you shouldn't take my word for it and look here, there are some interesting features which may appeal to some of you:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/new- ... 4-features

Regards Wolfman :)

Deacon

Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:12:29 pm

Wolfman wrote:Hi all,

I did say that there isn't much to report about ubuntu 13.04, well maybe you shouldn't take my word for it and look here, there are some interesting features which may appeal to some of you:

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/new- ... 4-features

Regards Wolfman :)


The truth is that 13.04 is, as far as I can see it, much more stable than 12.10, but I base all my experience on Xubuntu type stuff. 12.10 for X was awful, and my biggest concern about 12.04.02 being based on 12.10 (and likely 12.04.03, which will be based on 13.10, I presume) is that the fall edition seems to be more unstable than the spring one. That being the case, I wonder why they didn't wait a couple of months and based 12.04.02 on 13.04 instead.

It may have something to do with the considerations based on the LTS vs rolling release cycle.
http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/ne ... ease-cycle

madvinegar

Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:55:54 am

Deacon wrote:The truth is that 13.04 is, as far as I can see it, much more stable than 12.10, but I base all my experience on Xubuntu type stuff. 12.10 for X was awful, and my biggest concern about 12.04.02 being based on 12.10 (and likely 12.04.03, which will be based on 13.10, I presume) is that the fall edition seems to be more unstable than the spring one. That being the case, I wonder why they didn't wait a couple of months and based 12.04.02 on 13.04 instead.


You must have misunderstood 1 or 2 things.

12.04.2 is not based on either 12.10 or 13.04 or any other release.
12.04.2 is a "point" release of 12.04 (as so was 12.04.1 and will be 12.04.3).

The developers may sometimes just borrow certain packages that have proven to be stable on the next releases and use them to keep their Long-term-support release (i.e. 12.04) up to date. For example the kernel (from 3.2 to 3.5), or xorg (from 11.1 to 13.1) etc.
However, 12.04 is still based on gnome 3.4 whilst 12.10 is based on gnome 3.6.

Do not confuse the actual releases (12.04, 12.10, 13.04) with the "point" releases (12.04.1, 12.04.2, 12.04.3).
12.04 continues to be by far the most stable release with the longest period of support.

Ubuntu will not become a rolling release. Developers have also shortened the period of support for the intermidiary releases (the ones between the LTS releases), so as to focus and develop the LTS releases and provide a very stable working environment for users.
If you ask me, I see the non LTS releases as a "test area", and whatever package or kernel proves to be worthy and stable, developers backport it onto the stable releases.

madvinegar

Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:28:12 pm

I think that if you will use chrome, you will not experience these problems... hahahahahha

Deacon

Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:44:59 pm

madvinegar wrote:You must have misunderstood 1 or 2 things.

12.04.2 is not based on either 12.10 or 13.04 or any other release.
12.04.2 is a "point" release of 12.04 (as so was 12.04.1 and will be 12.04.3).

The developers may sometimes just borrow certain packages that have proven to be stable on the next releases and use them to keep their Long-term-support release (i.e. 12.04) up to date. For example the kernel (from 3.2 to 3.5), or xorg (from 11.1 to 13.1) etc.
However, 12.04 is still based on gnome 3.4 whilst 12.10 is based on gnome 3.6.

Do not confuse the actual releases (12.04, 12.10, 13.04) with the "point" releases (12.04.1, 12.04.2, 12.04.3).
12.04 continues to be by far the most stable release with the longest period of support.

Ubuntu will not become a rolling release. Developers have also shortened the period of support for the intermidiary releases (the ones between the LTS releases), so as to focus and develop the LTS releases and provide a very stable working environment for users.
If you ask me, I see the non LTS releases as a "test area", and whatever package or kernel proves to be worthy and stable, developers backport it onto the stable releases.


I understand that the "point releases" are simply updates to the LTS. And not that I want to be argumentative, but if you are backporting the kernel and x.org to match 12.10, you've got a lot of 12.10 under the hood. And based on minute 42:00 of this Google hangout, it does appear that Ubuntu may well move to rolling release by 14.04:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/14 ... g-releases

Of course, I could just be mad that HPLIP didn't work for my printer on 12.04 nor 12.10 but does, oddly enough, for 13.04. But I like to believe that I'm not so petty ;)

ak1ovic

Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:52:13 am

swarfendor437 wrote:
madvinegar wrote:I think that if you will use chrome, you will not experience these problems... hahahahahha


Ahh the price of freedom is richer than the price of selling out! :lol:


Sooner or later everyone sells out. Even grandpa Linus. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/l ... dora/11187