Zorin Os Boot Screen

Hello i am new to zorin os and everything is going great but i got a minor problem and wondered if it can be fixed when i turn my computer on it get tos zor on the boot logo before i see the desktop is there anyway of it playing the full animation or even disabling it because it always looks like it crashes "which i know it doesnt"

The plymouth theme after scrolling in from left to right should be glowing - that's an indication that the system is working on things before getting to login screen.

i get to the login screen and everything is fine, what i am trying to get at, is the loading screen where it scrolls saying zorin os cuts out at zor its like my computer boots too quick for the boot screen to fully show, i am using an nvme ssd, just doesnt look very good thats all as other distros that had loading screens such as mint and ubuntu where fine

Antonyb wrote:i get to the login screen and everything is fine, what i am trying to get at, is the loading screen where it scrolls saying zorin os cuts out at zor its like my computer boots too quick for the boot screen to fully show, i am using an nvme ssd, just doesnt look very good thats all as other distros that had loading screens such as mint and ubuntu where fine

Ah... I see what you meant. When you typed "Zor-" above, you meant that is as far as it got in displaying the Plymouth.
Well... That is some fast boot! Can I have your computer?


One option would be to disable the Plymouth Splash (Not uninstall!) which means you will not see that loading screen at all...

Aravisian wrote:

Antonyb wrote:i get to the login screen and everything is fine, what i am trying to get at, is the loading screen where it scrolls saying zorin os cuts out at zor its like my computer boots too quick for the boot screen to fully show, i am using an nvme ssd, just doesnt look very good thats all as other distros that had loading screens such as mint and ubuntu where fine

Ah... I see what you meant. When you typed "Zor-" above, you meant that is as far as it got in displaying the Plymouth.
Well... That is some fast boot! Can I have your computer?


One option would be to disable the Plymouth Splash (Not uninstall!) which means you will not see that loading screen at all...

yeah i think ill have to disable it even though its very good looking, like i said i with other distros its not an issue its ashame really as i like the aesthetics of it, can you tell me on how to disable it?

Antonyb wrote:

Aravisian wrote:

Antonyb wrote:i get to the login screen and everything is fine, what i am trying to get at, is the loading screen where it scrolls saying zorin os cuts out at zor its like my computer boots too quick for the boot screen to fully show, i am using an nvme ssd, just doesnt look very good thats all as other distros that had loading screens such as mint and ubuntu where fine

Ah... I see what you meant. When you typed "Zor-" above, you meant that is as far as it got in displaying the Plymouth.
Well... That is some fast boot! Can I have your computer?


One option would be to disable the Plymouth Splash (Not uninstall!) which means you will not see that loading screen at all...

yeah i think ill have to disable it even though its very good looking, like i said i with other distros its not an issue its ashame really as i like the aesthetics of it, can you tell me on how to disable it?

Yes, you can actually follow this guide here as it has screenshots.
If you want to see the Text scrolling across the screen, follow the directions for "quiet." If you do not want to see the text, ignore that part.
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/201 ... 04-higher/

ok ill try that thank you, hopefully one day they will be a fix so i can see the full splash screen, because i dont have the issue with any other distro on the same hardware.

Antonyb wrote:ok ill try that thank you, hopefully one day they will be a fix so i can see the full splash screen, because i dont have the issue with any other distro on the same hardware.

Fix fast boot? Uh... I guess you could installa bunch of new software and put it in your start up folder.

Have PM'd AZorin - I don't know if 'burg works with latest derivatives of Ubuntu. (Plymouth Theme manager).

https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-2/79310825_748192032360943_2804576183583244288_n.mp4?_nc_cat=100&vs=be360bc28f98fdde&_nc_vs=HBksFQAYJEdPa3Z1Z1R2Q1ZBSWVxZ0NBQUFBQUFBdTJfc21idjRHQUFBRhUAABUAGCRHR1pGdGdRUlU4M3JIdk1DQUFBQUFBQi1veFFuYnY0R0FBQUYVAgBLAYgScHJvZ3Jlc3NpdmVfcmVjaXBlATEVACUAHAAAGA8xMDAwMDg2ODMxNDQ3NDAW%2BpnEjIvu%2FAcVAhkFGANDM2UYC3Z0c19wcmV2aWV3HBdAIvxqfvnbIxgYZGFzaF92NF9ocTVfZnJhZ18yX3ZpZGVvEgAYGHZpZGVvcy52dHMuY2FsbGJhY2sucHJvZBkcFQAVhPkCACgSVklERU9fVklFV19SRVFVRVNUGwOIFW9lbV90YXJnZXRfZW5jb2RlX3RhZwZvZXBfaGQTb2VtX3JlcXVlc3RfdGltZV9tcw0xNTc1MDU0MjY2NDk0DG9lbV9jZmdfcnVsZQd1bm11dGVkJQIA&efg=eyJ2ZW5jb2RlX3RhZyI6Im9lcF9oZCJ9&_nc_ohc=_kZYhqIWnRsAQlJ4VVOZpSnDe_qcBev12wUY_nBErZNS2SWrjTcZ8l_fw&_nc_ht=video-lhr3-1.xx&oh=f8629e8a78b1e77bf73ec5ab0354342f&oe=5DE1986F&_nc_rid=394684026e7548c posted a video to see if it helps

I've PM'd AZorin the link to your video.

Swarfendor437 wrote:I've PM'd AZorin the link to your video.

alright cheers.

Antonyb, that is very helpful to post a video. I wish more people were willing to put in that kind of effort instead of assuming others can fully understand what is described on their own.
That being said, watching the video, I can only say...
That is One Fast Boot!

That poor Plymouth never had a chance.

Aravisian wrote:Antonyb, that is very helpful to post a video. I wish more people were willing to put in that kind of effort instead of assuming others can fully understand what is described on their own.
That being said, watching the video, I can only say...
That is One Fast Boot!

That poor Plymouth never had a chance.

yeah i figured it would be easier to record what i was seeing, just wish there was a way to fix it

Antonyb wrote:

Aravisian wrote:Antonyb, that is very helpful to post a video. I wish more people were willing to put in that kind of effort instead of assuming others can fully understand what is described on their own.
That being said, watching the video, I can only say...
That is One Fast Boot!

That poor Plymouth never had a chance.

yeah i figured it would be easier to record what i was seeing, just wish there was a way to fix it

Looking at the video, I can see the annoyance.
I, for one, Really like the new Zorin Plymouth.

But I also admit, I am impressed by how fast your SSD system boots up.
Did you get Montgomery Scott to tinker with your Grub?

I know on Zorin 12.4, I could disable my Plymouth from running. It was a trick to speed up boot. But, I cannot seem to figure out how to do with Zorin 15.
The only other thing I can think of - is to slow down your boot up.

this is the first zorin os ive ever used and liked i said in my earlier posts other distros dont seem to have that issue with the splash screen which is why i am confused about it being an issue on zorin just doesnt make the os look good when it does that, and no one seems to know how to resolve this which is quite dissappointing.

Is Zorin the only OS on this machine?

Also have you installed nvidia drivers if the system has nvidia chipset? This can seriously affect the boot logo!

Swarfendor437 wrote:Is Zorin the only OS on this machine?

Also have you installed nvidia drivers if the system has nvidia chipset? This can seriously affect the boot logo!

yes im only using zorin os 15 core, its an amd 2500u integrated gpu

Hmm! I'm wondering if it could be a kernel parameter that needs adding to/amending:

https://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.ph ... 3132&pp=75

Swarfendor437 wrote:Hmm! I'm wondering if it could be a kernel parameter that needs adding to/amending:

https://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.ph ... 3132&pp=75

i dont think that will fix the issue considering its only the splash screen issue, i had to do nomodeset in linux mint because that used a much older kernal, but the one on here and other ubuntu distros uses the kernal i need which is 5.0.36-generic, the operating system as a whole works fine its just the splash screen cutting out on zor and not doing the full animation before boot.

Having tried different search parameters, I think I have found it is to do with how Plymouth is entered in GRUB, coupled with the infamous SystemD - from this Gentoo forum thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7975064.html

"You probably need to include Plymouth and the theme you want in an initramfs if you want to have the splash earlier and longer. If the Plymouth theme is only available after the real root partition is mounted it reduce the time it is display."

Swarfendor437 wrote:Having tried different search parameters, I think I have found it is to do with how Plymouth is entered in GRUB, coupled with the infamous SystemD - from this Gentoo forum thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7975064.html

"You probably need to include Plymouth and the theme you want in an initramfs if you want to have the splash earlier and longer. If the Plymouth theme is only available after the real root partition is mounted it reduce the time it is display."

just read it not really sure what im supposed to edit.

Antonyb wrote:

Swarfendor437 wrote:Having tried different search parameters, I think I have found it is to do with how Plymouth is entered in GRUB, coupled with the infamous SystemD - from this Gentoo forum thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7975064.html

"You probably need to include Plymouth and the theme you want in an initramfs if you want to have the splash earlier and longer. If the Plymouth theme is only available after the real root partition is mounted it reduce the time it is display."

just read it not really sure what im supposed to edit.

In terminal enter

Code:

sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

If you do not have gedit installed, you can install it with "sudo apt-get install gedit" though I just change gedit to mousepad on my terminal.

Starting around line 6, you should see the following

Code:

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

The thread Swarfendor linked to suggested merely removing the quiet splash parameter.
You could make it look like this

Code:

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
# GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

Or, like this

Code:

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

Either way, do that, then click "Save" and try a reboot.

Aravisian wrote:

Antonyb wrote:

Swarfendor437 wrote:Having tried different search parameters, I think I have found it is to do with how Plymouth is entered in GRUB, coupled with the infamous SystemD - from this Gentoo forum thread:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7975064.html

"You probably need to include Plymouth and the theme you want in an initramfs if you want to have the splash earlier and longer. If the Plymouth theme is only available after the real root partition is mounted it reduce the time it is display."

just read it not really sure what im supposed to edit.

In terminal enter

Code:

sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

If you do not have gedit installed, you can install it with "sudo apt-get install gedit" though I just change gedit to mousepad on my terminal.

Starting around line 6, you should see the following

Code:

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

The thread Swarfendor linked to suggested merely removing the quiet splash parameter.
You could make it look like this

Code:

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
# GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

Or, like this

Code:

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden
GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

Either way, do that, then click "Save" and try a reboot.

did the bottom one and got rid of quiet splash all it did was scrolling text when doing the reboot and got rid of the zorin splash screen completely, which wasnt what i was aiming for unfortunately

What happens when you change that 'default' line to:

"nomodeset acpi=off quiet splash"

Swarfendor437 wrote::?: What happens when you change that 'default' line to:

"nomodeset acpi=off quiet splash"

Done that now it's a black screen and now the os wont load now great

edit managed to get back using recovery so going to revert the grub back to how it was, since it almost broke the os

Sorry to hear that. Glad you got back to working OS. I await Artyom's response to my original PM.

On a side note did you follow the SSD procedure as outlined here?:

https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/ssd.html

and here:

http://www.ocsmag.com/2016/04/30/using- ... -on-linux/

i think based on how long its taken for me to try and fix it,and i appreicate your guys help i think im going to give up trying to fix it now as it seems to be alot of hassle, i think i am just going to end up distro hopping to someone else i do appreicate you guys trying to help me with this issue.

Antonyb wrote:i think based on how long its taken for me to try and fix it,and i appreicate your guys help i think im going to give up trying to fix it now as it seems to be alot of hassle, i think i am just going to end up distro hopping to someone else i do appreicate you guys trying to help me with this issue.

Distro-Hopping is one of the true joys of Linux.


Who ever went Windows-Hopping?
Nobody, that's who.

Aravisian wrote:

Antonyb wrote:i think based on how long its taken for me to try and fix it,and i appreicate your guys help i think im going to give up trying to fix it now as it seems to be alot of hassle, i think i am just going to end up distro hopping to someone else i do appreicate you guys trying to help me with this issue.

Distro-Hopping is one of the true joys of Linux.


Who ever went Windows-Hopping?
Nobody, that's who.

well i suppose you could window hop if you wanted to try the old windows 98

Antonyb wrote:
well i suppose you could window hop if you wanted to try the old windows 98

A smart person would. That's a step up from Windows 10.

Aravisian wrote:

Antonyb wrote:
well i suppose you could window hop if you wanted to try the old windows 98

A smart person would. That's a step up from Windows 10.

totally agree

But only in a VM!

OK, had a reply from AZorin and this is a workaround, from his PM:

"You can install it by downloading the file in the following link and pasting it in /usr/share/plymouth/themes/zorin-logo overwriting the "zorin-logo.script" file: https://we.tl/t-g95hg2PzEz
Afterwards, make sure to run this command in the Terminal to apply the change: sudo update-initramfs -u"