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[SOLVED] Zorin and Natron

Stanko1

Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:20:36 am

Hello all and many thanks for the group.

Just wondering if anyone could help out a new Zorinite install Natron.

Can't make it work.

New to Linux and am loving the new world.

Best Regards

Swarfendor437

Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:03:11 pm

Hi, have you tried doing it from this site, and clicking on install?

https://snapcraft.io/natron

Stanko1

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:09:43 pm

Tried the link.

Doesn't work. Says 'Don't know how to handle natron///' etc.

I can download and not install.

Says snapcraft is already in Zorin so I don't understand why I'd have any issues.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards

Aravisian

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:39:59 pm

What happens on this link:
https://natrongithub.github.io/
if you select download, Linux -and grab the installer? I tested it on my machine and it worked.
Open with archive manager, extract, then right click installer, select Properties and make sure that "allow run as Executable" is checked on.
It also has a flatpak option. You would need to install flatpak to try that, though.

Swarfendor437

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:03:22 pm

Hi Aravisian, thanks for that information about flatpak - a warning though. FerenOS uses Flatpak and its negatives are that it fills up '/' with *.flatpak.cache's. I have 30 Gb '/' on Feren OS just as I have in Zorin but it started to say short of space. My first suspect was Linux Kernels but no, the biggest eater of space is Flatpak.cache(s). I've tried to remove based on advice elsewhere and the dev of Feren OS said he released an app to take care of it but nothing coming through. For now I would avoid flatpak - like Wayland it is immature. ;) :D

Stanko1

Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:14:14 am

I'll stay away from that.

Damn thing still won't go...

BR

Aravisian

Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:18:55 am

Stanko1 wrote:I'll stay away from that.

Damn thing still won't go...

BR

Are you getting any error messages?
May need to try a manual install...
https://debian.pkgs.org/sid/multimedia- ... 4.deb.html
Scroll down to check the "requires" - dependencies...
Scroll to Download and download the package.
Save it to your downloads folder.
Open terminal and
Code:
cd ~/Downloads

Then enter:
Code:
sudo dpkg -i natron_2.3.14-dmo3_amd64.deb

dpkg will try to install it. If there are missing dependencies, it will list them in that terminal window. You can then try to correct; please post the results here so we can help you correct issues.

Stanko1

Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:09:34 am

"dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'natron_2.3.14-dmo3_amd64.deb': No such file or directory"

Doing something wrong I think...

Best Regards

Aravisian

Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:39:38 am

Stanko1 wrote:"dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'natron_2.3.14-dmo3_amd64.deb': No such file or directory"

Doing something wrong I think...

Best Regards

What commands, in order, are you entering into terminal?

Stanko1

Fri Jan 31, 2020 6:48:33 am

The ones that you posted.

cd ~/Downloads

sudo dpkg -i natron_2.3.14-dmo3_amd64.deb

Swarfendor437

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:26:58 am

If it's a deb package won't it install with Gdebi package installer? At least then you get to see if any dependencies are missing.

Stanko1

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:18:26 am

Where do I find that installer?

Apologies for not knowing.

Best Regards

Aravisian

Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:40:31 am

Stanko1 wrote:Where do I find that installer?

Apologies for not knowing.

Best Regards

Code:
sudo apt-get install gdebi

But be warned, it does not seem to work on Zorin 15 LITE.

Using the terminal as posted above will also tell you of any missing dependencies.

Stanko1

Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:17:26 am

Seems to work...

Thank You.

Now what? LOL

Aravisian

Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:20:08 am

Stanko1 wrote:Seems to work...

Thank You.

Now what? LOL

Right click the package and select Open With: Gdebi

Stanko1

Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:36:20 am

Sorry to say.

It won't let me.

'Could not open Natron-2.3.14 Linux-84_64bit'

'The Package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file.'

Best Regards once again...

Aravisian

Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:57:29 am

Stanko1 wrote:Sorry to say.

It won't let me.

'Could not open Natron-2.3.14 Linux-84_64bit'

'The Package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file. Check the permissions of the file.'

Best Regards once again...

Ok, I examined the pacakge, this is what I got with a freshly installed Zorin 15 lite:
Code:
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of natron:
natron depends on libboost-serialization1.67.0; however:
  Package libboost-serialization1.67.0 is not installed.
natron depends on libgflags2.2; however:
  Package libgflags2.2 is not installed.
natron depends on libgoogle-glog0v5; however:
  Package libgoogle-glog0v5 is not installed.
natron depends on libpyside1.2 (>= 1.2.1); however:
  Package libpyside1.2 is not installed.
natron depends on libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3); however:
  Package libqt4-network is not installed.
natron depends on libqt4-opengl (>= 4:4.6.1); however:
  Package libqt4-opengl is not installed.
natron depends on libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0); however:
  Package libqtcore4 is not installed.
natron depends on libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0); however:
  Package libqtgui4 is not installed.
natron depends on libshiboken1.2v5 (>= 1.1.0); however:
  Package libshiboken1.2v5 is not installed.
natron depends on opencolorio-configs-natron; however:
  Package opencolorio-configs-natron is not installed.
natron depends on openfx-misc-natron; however:
  Package openfx-misc-natron is not installed.
natron depends on openfx-io-natron; however:
  Package openfx-io-natron is not installed.
natron depends on python-pyside.qtcore; however:
  Package python-pyside.qtcore is not installed.
natron depends on python-pyside.qtgui; however:
  Package python-pyside.qtgui is not installed.

Soo... yeah. That is quite a list. Let's change tactics.

Let's try this: In terminal
Code:
sudo sh -c 'echo "deb http://ro.alwayshere.net/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list

Code:
sudo sh -c 'echo "deb-src http://ro.alwayshere.net/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list

Code:
wget http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main/d/deb-multimedia-keyring/deb-multimedia-keyring_2012.05.05_all.deb -O deb-multimedia-keyring.deb

Code:
sudo dpkg -i multimedia-keyring_all.deb

Code:
sudo apt update

Code:
sudo apt-get install natron

That should supply Natron with all the dependencies.

Stanko1

Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:12:50 am

Obviously doing something wrong. Once again many thanks.


-ThinkCentre-M58p:~/Desktop$ sudo sh -c 'echo "deb http://ro.alwayshere.net/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
>
>
>
> sudo sh -c 'echo "deb-src http://ro.alwayshere.net/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
-ThinkCentre-M58p:~/Desktop$
-ThinkCentre-M58p:~/Desktop$ wget http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main ... 05_all.deb -O deb-multimedia-keyring.deb
--2020-01-31 22:58:28-- http://www.deb-multimedia.org/pool/main ... 05_all.deb
Resolving www.deb-multimedia.org (www.deb-multimedia.org)... 91.121.146.196, 2001:41d0:1:c3c4::1
Connecting to www.deb-multimedia.org (www.deb-multimedia.org)|91.121.146.196|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2020-01-31 22:58:28 ERROR 404: Not Found.

-ThinkCentre-M58p:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i multimedia-keyring_all.deb
[sudo]
dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'multimedia-keyring_all.deb': No such file or directory
-ThinkCentre-M58p:~/Desktop$ sudo apt update
Hit:1 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
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Hit:7 https://packages.zorinos.com/stable bionic InRelease
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Hit:12 https://packages.zorinos.com/drivers bionic InRelease
Hit:13 http://ppa.launchpad.net/zorinos/stable/ubuntu bionic InRelease
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Fetched 3,600 kB in 4s (922 kB/s)
Reading package lists... 7%
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
32 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
y-ThinkCentre-M58p:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install natron
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package natron

Aravisian

Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:31:16 am

I just tested three methods and all failed- but it looks like there is a Snap Package for it. That may be why each install fails- it is no longer supported in the repositories.
Try snap:
IF YOU HAVE SNAP INSTALLED-SKIP THIS PART
Code:
sudo apt-get install snapd



Code:
snap install natron

Stanko1

Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:36:48 am

Looks like I need an upgrade: Many thanks again.

error: snap "natron" is not available on stable for this architecture (i386)
but exists on other architectures (amd64).

Aravisian

Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:03:59 am

Stanko1 wrote:Looks like I need an upgrade: Many thanks again.

error: snap "natron" is not available on stable for this architecture (i386)
but exists on other architectures (amd64).

Ah, chuckle- that would explain it. Hmmm.... If you feel like slithering down the rabbit hole, again:
Second option down is 32 bit
http://packages.deepin.com/deepin/pool/main/n/natron/
Download the package,
then
Code:
cd ~/Downloads

Code:
sudo dpkg -i natron_2.0.1_i386.deb

Stanko1

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:32:20 am

bash: cd~/Downloads: No such file or directory

Is it safe for me to use my old drive with Windows on it to upload it for a few mins?

Best Regards and thanks once again

Aravisian

Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:54:00 pm

Stanko1 wrote:bash: cd~/Downloads: No such file or directory

Code:
cd ~/Downloads
^ there must be a space after "cd".
EDITED with correction from Swarf.

Swarfendor437

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:54:37 pm

Aravisian wrote:
Stanko1 wrote:bash: cd~/Downloads: No such file or directory

Code:
cd ~/Downloads
^ there must be a space after "~".


Don't you mean after "d" in cd? ;) :D

Aravisian

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:57:35 pm

Swarfendor437 wrote:
Aravisian wrote:
Stanko1 wrote:bash: cd~/Downloads: No such file or directory

Code:
cd ~/Downloads
^ there must be a space after "~".


Don't you mean after "d" in cd? ;) :D

Yes, edited correction- I blame Sleep dep on that one. I meant what you said but typed what I said. Weird.

Swarfendor437

Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:06:39 pm

Been there, done that, got the Tee! ;) :D

Stanko1

Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:39:12 am

Installed.

Done and done.

Thank You Gentlemen. Thank You.