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3D Effects Help

Caspar

Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:58:26 pm

Hi
Been using Zorin 5.2 core for a week and think it's great.
I'm not getting any 3D effects, I guess my graphics card doesn't support them.
Could somebody confirm this from the "lspci" output below.
Thanks.
Code:
doug@doug-Aspire-M1930:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b5)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev b5)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
doug@doug-Aspire-M1930:~$ lspci

madvinegar

Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:03:03 pm

Hi.
First of all have you updated your system? viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1617
If yes, have you checked in system>administration>additional drivers if there is any recomended driver for your card to be enabled?

Otherwise, check this thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/54464/ho ... integrated

Caspar

Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:15:59 pm

Thanks for the reply.
My system is up to date.
No recommended drivers to be enabled.
So I tried the xorg-edgers repository of experimental drivers as detailed in your link on a virtual machine but has made no difference.
Is it worth trying on my real system, I don't really want to break it!
Thanks.

madvinegar

Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:36:03 am

As I just bought a laptop with the same VGA (dell n14z), I am waiting for the release of Zorin6 with gnome 3 and kernel 3.xx.x.
I see in the ubuntu page http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/har ... 01106-8252 that this VGA is supported and ubuntu are suggesting to download the 11.10 version 32bit(?!) (which probably is based in gnome3?)

I tried the 5.2 live CD and I can confirm that all worked out of the box (even the wifi!) but I got no 3d effects. Ofcourse I have not updated the system. I only tried the live CD for a few minutes.

Once Zorin6 is released and I try/install same, IF there is still a problem, I will look deeper into it and post any possible solution.

Wolfman

Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:10:00 am

Hi chaps,

you can check this link out:

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm

Which will lead you to here:

http://intellinuxgraphics.org/

Then here:

http://intellinuxgraphics.org/install.html

And finally here:

https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers

From here on; you are on your own kids!!. Make sure you read things carefully before commiting anything.

I don't know if adding PPA's to a VM will work or not; I don't use one so I can only recommend installing to a hard drive AFTER BACKING UP ALL YOUR DATA!!!!!!!!!!!!..

Hope this helps.

Regards Wolfman :D

madvinegar

Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:49:59 am

Thanx WM for that. I would also check this site: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html as from there you can download the dirver packages.

The last link you gave seems very very interesting as well. Basically you have to do:

Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo apt-get update


so as to add the xorg repositories.

I have used the xorg drivers in another laptop without any problem. When the time comes, and IF it will be needed, I will certainly try them out. Linux without compiz effects is like Chelsea Football team without Drogba... :lol: :lol: :lol:

But as I said, I will wait first for zorin6 to be released.

Wolfman

Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:54:15 am

Hi MV,

if successful, this could be worthy of a "Sticky", it is hard for me to judge as I only have Nvidia and ATI (or AMD as they are called these days!) graphics cards!!.

Regards Wolfman :D

madvinegar

Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:01:50 am

Ok I will keep you posted. Press the zorin developers to release zorin6 so as to start trying it out... :lol: :lol:
On another note I too believe that the xorg repositories will not work in VM.

Another interesting note is that ubuntu are using the 32bit OS version for this VGA, while clearly the laptop proposed in their website is supporting 64bit. Do you think there might be any relation to that...?

Wolfman

Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:54:36 am

Hi chaps,

I have added a bit to MV's code in his earlier post!.

Copy and paste the following in a terminal:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa

Followed by:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Then restart your PC and if it doesn't explode, you should be okay :D :D :D

Use this at your own risk, remember that the PPA is external and may break your system :!: . (Not to say it will; but you never know :mrgreen: )

Regards Wolfman :D

madvinegar

Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:21:21 am

All I know is that I would certainly try it out if/when needed. But everyone takes his own risks.

WM it is exactly as described in the 1st link I gave (my post no2): http://askubuntu.com/questions/54464/ho ... integrated

Code:
sudo apt-add-repository ppa: xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade-y

and then restart.

The guy also says this card has the technology SNA - Sandy Bridge New Acceleration Architecture that improves some acceleration features. So, after the above commands we can also do the following:

Code:
sudo apt-add-repository ppa:sarvatt/sna-intel && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade-y


Fingers crossed, I am not anticipating any problems and hopefully the 3d effects will work.

Wolfman

Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:30:23 am

Hi MV,

I have never used the command with the "Y" on the end. Can you confirm that because I have found one where there is a space at the end between "upgrade" and the "-y"!!.

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y

Regards Wolfman :D

madvinegar

Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:01:09 am

I just copied it from the link I gave above.

To be honest, this "-y" is just to avoid been asked by terminal if you agree in installing the packages requested.

You can leave it out, and just press "y" + <enter> when asked to proceed with the installation.

Caspar

Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:36:50 pm

Hi, I decided to try the commands you suggested and have good news and bad news.

The good news is my system is still fine, the bad I have no 3D effects.

Maybe best to wait for Zorin 6 and try again.

Thanks for your help.

madvinegar

Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:41:20 pm

After the installation of xorg, did you check again in additional drivers to see if there was any recommended driver to be enabled?

Wolfman

Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:42:07 pm

Hi Caspar,

well it shouldn't be too long before Zorin 6 I hope!!. I will check further tomorrow for a solution.

Regards Wolfman :D

madvinegar

Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:52:42 am

Please open "update manager" again and check from updates.

After that please post the outcome of

Code:
sudo lshw -C video

Wolfman

Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:55:33 am

http://wiki.compiz.org/

Will give you all the info you need about Compiz!!.

Regards Wolfman :D

madvinegar

Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:02:11 am

I keep on researching about this issue.

I found this topic in ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ght=hd3000

Check out post #10 !

If you like, you can try it out!

Wolfman

Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:55:35 am

madvinegar

Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:13:11 am

Further to my previous posts, i.e.:

1) Open update manager and check again for updates.
2) Post the results of
Code:
sudo lswh -c video

3) Take a look at post #10 of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php? ... ght=hd3000

Could you also open terminal and post the results of

Code:
glxinfo | grep render


Code:
lspci -nn|grep VGA


Code:
apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel

Caspar

Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:00:57 pm

Hi again
1) Updated the system and checked for recommended drivers - none available.

2)
Code:
  *-display               
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 2
       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
       version: 09
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
       resources: irq:44 memory:fe000000-fe3fffff memory:c0000000-cfffffff ioport:f000(size=64)


3) Ran the commands in post # 10

4)
Code:
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
    GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility,

Code:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0102] (rev 09)

Code:
xserver-xorg-video-intel:
  Installed: 2:2.18.0+git20120330.ee075ced-0ubuntu0sarvatt~natty
  Candidate: 2:2.18.0+git20120330.ee075ced-0ubuntu0sarvatt~natty
  Version table:
*** 2:2.18.0+git20120330.ee075ced-0ubuntu0sarvatt~natty 0
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:2.15.0~natty~ppa8.2 0
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages
     2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7.3 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main i386 Packages
     2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages


Still no 3D effects!

madvinegar

Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:58:57 pm

Caspar, all seems to be fine with the card.

I have been checking your problem with the greek ubuntu community as well, (as I am personally interested for this GPU) and they told me the following:

Intel HD3000 is one of the new types of graphics cards that cooperate directly with the CPU.
So, apart from the drivers that have to be correct and updated, they have also to cooperate correctly with the core Kernels.
For this reason, in order this card to be fully supported you have to install the 12.04 edition (or Zorin6 in our case), because all the settings/drivers etc will be the latest ones and will come as default.

So... as you can understand, you and me both will have to wait for the new release of Zorin6 in order to get 3d effects, which hopefully won't be too long.
Sorry, this is as far as I can get!

Caspar

Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:28:57 pm

Thanks Madvinegar for the information and the help - bring on Zorin6!

madvinegar

Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:55:34 pm

Caspar... very good news...
I created a live usb of ubuntu 12.04 beta2 and installed the compiz config settings manager. Actually I am writing this post logged in this live usb.

The 3d effects work !!! I have taken a snapshot to prove it and to make you even more happy (and even more anxius!).
So... as you said... bring on Zorin6 !!!

Screeshot1 Cube: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/ ... hot3-1.png

madvinegar

Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:12:36 pm

As you see in my screenshots, yes it will.
It's 12.04 beta2, I downloaded compiz config settings manager and I enabled desktop cube. It works!

esteenson88

Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:40:11 pm

I feel your pain, Caspar. Anyone heard anything about a estimated release date for Zorin 6? So glad I just paid for the premium 5.2

Caspar

Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:37:44 pm

Good news!
Thanks MV.

madvinegar

Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:01:21 pm

You're welcome!