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[SOLVED] BCM4313 Wireless not connecting

Zoro1044

Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:25:23 am

Hi I replaced Win XP with Zorin 5.2 64 bits on a Samsung SF570 laptop. The wireless card will not connect to the router. I also tried Zorin 6.1 but found 5.2 easier. I have read other posts about b43 and removed it as it is not for BCM4313 only 431x to 2. Could you please advise me before I lose the the last of my balding hair. I have posted Network info to help.

paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ lshw -c network
WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 01
serial: 00:1b:b1:a2:b7:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=brcm80211 driverversion=2.6.38-16-generic firmware=N/A latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
resources: irq:16 memory:f4c00000-f4c03fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: Yukon Optima 88E8059 [PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller with AVB]
vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 11
serial: 00:24:54:e6:19:ea
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sky2 driverversion=1.28 firmware=N/A latency=0 multicast=yes port=twisted pair
resources: irq:41 memory:f3820000-f3823fff ioport:b000(size=256) memory:f3800000-f381ffff
WARNING: output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user.
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$

madvinegar

Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:34:14 pm

Hi.
First of all run
Code:
sudo rfkill list all

Is there any reference that any device is blocked? (soft or hard).
If something is "soft" blocked run
Code:
sudo rfkill unblock all

to unblock it.
If it is "hard" blocked it means that a wireless switch is turned off. Find it and turn it to "on". It may be a key combination i.e. Fn+F2.

BCM4312 is a very tricky driver. For others it works with the wl module, and for others with the native brcm driver. You have correctly uninstalled and blocked the B43 driver.

Have you tried installing the STA driver?
Plug an ethernet cable to get internet, open terminal and write
Code:
sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source

restart and (if your wireless is not automatically working) then run
Code:
sudo modprobe wl

If thsi works, we can make it permanent by adding the wl module on "modules" for every startup.
Open termina and run
Code:
sudo gedit /etc/modules

At the end of the file on a separate line, add the word
wl

save, exit, reboot and see if it works after restart.

Zoro1044

Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:38:13 am

Hi MV I have done everything you advised to do but still no connection. I inserted a USB adapter which sees my router ok. The only driver I have installed is STA driver, I removed b43-cutter. Any ideas would be helpful.



paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo modprobe wl
[sudo] password for paula:
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo rfkill list all
0: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: brcmwl-0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo lshw -c network
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
logical name: eth1
version: 01
serial: 00:1b:b1:a2:b7:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=5.100.82.38 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: irq:16 memory:f4c00000-f4c03fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: Yukon Optima 88E8059 [PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller with AVB]
vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 11
serial: 00:24:54:e6:19:ea
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sky2 driverversion=1.28 firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
resources: irq:42 memory:f3820000-f3823fff ioport:b000(size=256) memory:f3800000-f381ffff
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$

madvinegar

Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:06:20 am

Ok, lets try then using the native drivers.
Follow these simple steps.
1) You need ubuntu tweak. This comes preinstalled in Zorin. If you don't have it, install it like this:
Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak


2) Open "additional drivers" and REMOVE the broadcom STA driver. Restart.
3) Open ubuntu-tweak. Click "start janitor" and go to the "package configs" tab. Delete everything that the janitor says and especially a file called "bcmwl-kernel-source".
4) Restart and and let us know if your wireless works.

Zoro1044

Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:43:08 am

Thanks for your quick reply. I cleaned out STA driver with Tweak, restarted still not connected. In the config panel both the Wireless and Wired Network are greyed out.

madvinegar

Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:56:21 am

As it stands now, if you do a
Code:
sudo modprobe brcm80211

does it get your wifi working?

madvinegar

Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:59:48 am

Also, since now you have removed the wl driver, do the following:
Code:
sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf

At the end of the file add the lines
blacklist mac80211
blacklist brcm80211
blacklist cfg80211
blacklist wl
blacklist lib80211_crypt_tkip
blacklist lib80211

Save, exit.
Then
Code:
sudo gedit /etc/rc.local

just above the last line that says "exit 0" add the line
Code:
modprobe brcm80211

Save, exit, reboot and check if your wireless is working.

Zoro1044

Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:14:43 am

Still not connecting I might have missed some thing. Now the adapter won't connect when I plug it in but the drop down panel shows both the adapter and the on board card greyed out " not connected".

madvinegar

Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:25:49 am

Did you reboot?
Also, did you switch off the internet connection by any switch? (actual or key combination)
Please check again the
Code:
sudo rfkill list all

and see if something is blocked.
Also please post again the results of
Code:
sudo lshw -c network

and
Code:
lsmod

Zoro1044

Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:38:33 am

Hi MV I have restarted computer and no connection. I posted the lists you asked for. I hope you can see some thing I have missed. I have also reset router from factory settings and tested with my laptop and desktop.

paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo rfkill list all
[sudo] password for paula:
0: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: phy0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo lshw -c network
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 01
serial: 00:1b:b1:a2:b7:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=brcm80211 driverversion=2.6.38-16-generic firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
resources: irq:16 memory:f4c00000-f4c03fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: Yukon Optima 88E8059 [PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller with AVB]
vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 11
serial: 00:24:54:e6:19:ea
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sky2 driverversion=1.28 firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
resources: irq:41 memory:f3820000-f3823fff ioport:b000(size=256) memory:f3800000-f381ffff
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_iso8859_1 12713 1
nls_cp437 16991 1
vfat 21708 1
fat 61374 1 vfat
usb_storage 53538 1
uas 17996 0
rt73usb 27406 0
crc_itu_t 12707 1 rt73usb
rt2500usb 23159 0
rt2x00usb 20330 2 rt73usb,rt2500usb
rt2x00lib 49235 3 rt73usb,rt2500usb,rt2x00usb
arc4 12529 2
brcm80211 748941 0
mac80211 294370 3 rt2x00usb,rt2x00lib,brcm80211
cfg80211 178528 3 rt2x00lib,brcm80211,mac80211
parport_pc 36959 0
ppdev 17113 0
dm_crypt 22993 0
binfmt_misc 17565 1
rfcomm 47694 12
sco 18187 2
bnep 18308 2
l2cap 53610 16 rfcomm,bnep
zram 22837 4
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 28167 1
snd_hda_codec_realtek 336771 1
snd_hda_intel 33176 2
snd_hda_codec 103804 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13604 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 96391 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq_midi 13324 0
snd_rawmidi 30486 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 14899 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 61621 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 29602 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 14462 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd 67382 14 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
uvcvideo 72195 0
videodev 82052 1 uvcvideo
psmouse 73535 0
v4l2_compat_ioctl32 17078 1 videodev
serio_raw 13166 0
btusb 18600 2
soundcore 12680 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 18529 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
intel_ips 18097 0
bluetooth 72320 9 rfcomm,sco,bnep,l2cap,btusb
lp 17825 0
parport 46458 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
dm_raid45 77827 0
xor 12890 1 dm_raid45
btrfs 550457 0
zlib_deflate 27074 1 btrfs
libcrc32c 12644 1 btrfs
usbhid 46956 0
hid 91020 1 usbhid
nouveau 682277 0
i915 515134 8
ttm 76664 1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper 42394 2 nouveau,i915
drm 227534 6 nouveau,i915,ttm,drm_kms_helper
ahci 25951 2
libahci 26642 1 ahci
sky2 58509 0
i2c_algo_bit 13400 2 nouveau,i915
video 19623 2 nouveau,i915
ramzswap 13408 0
xvmalloc 13767 1 ramzswap
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$

madvinegar

Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:03:13 pm

I think I may have found what is wrong. It says "firmware N/A".
I believe we may need the b43 firmware. You said in your first post that you have removed the b43 driver. Can you please tell me exactly what you did?

Zoro1044

Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:17:45 pm

I removed b43 driver and b43-cutter from Synaptic package manager, after reading they don't cover 4313 only up to bcm4312.

madvinegar

Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:35:54 pm

I see that you have Zorin 5 installed. Probably the firmware of brcm80211 is not included. (I think that it is certainly included in Zorin 6).
Therefore we would need to install it separately.
First of all try this
Code:
sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree

Maybe the firmware of brcm80211 is included in the above list.
Reboot and see if it works.

Otherwise go here http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/ ... 1/download choose a mirror and download the deb file. Double click on it and let it be installed.
Reboot and see if wifi works.

Zoro1044

Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:55:04 am

Still not working, but I found this trawling sites could this be the answer and how do I access that version. I would appreciate help thank you. If all else fails then an USB adapter is an easy answer for the owner.

brcmsmac (brcm80211 prior to Linux 2.6.39) is a free and open source mac80211 driver, introduced in Linux 2.6.37.1
It supports wireless LAN devices based on specific Broadcom 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chips:

BCM4313
BCM43224
BCM43225

madvinegar

Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:22:03 am

Just for the sake of good order install back from synaptics, only the "b43-fwcutter" driver.

You could also try
Code:
sudo modprobe brcmsmac
Do you get internet?

After that please post back again the outcome of
Code:
sudo lshw -c network

Zoro1044

Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:02:29 am

Still no connection, new posting with "b43-fwcutter" only. USB wifi adapter not connecting also without STA-source

paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo modprobe brcmsmac
[sudo] password for paula:
FATAL: Module brcmsmac not found.
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo lshw -c network
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
logical name: eth1
version: 01
serial: 00:1b:b1:a2:b7:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=5.100.82.38 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: irq:16 memory:f4c00000-f4c03fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: Yukon Optima 88E8059 [PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller with AVB]
vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 11
serial: 00:24:54:e6:19:ea
size: 100Mbit/s
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sky2 driverversion=1.28 duplex=full firmware=N/A ip=192.168.0.101 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100Mbit/s
resources: irq:41 memory:f3820000-f3823fff ioport:b000(size=256) memory:f3800000-f381ffff
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$

madvinegar

Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:28:07 am

I see that again the wl module has been selected. Have you enabled the STA drivers from addditional drivers? You have to disable them and then run
Code:
sudo modprobe brcm80211


If you still get into trouble, may I suggest something...?
Do you consider installing Zorin 6.1? It is far more updated with firmware and wireless drivers and I am pretty positive that your wireless adapter will work out of the box. Usually you just need to plug an ethernet cable and carry out the necessary updates. As I said, your driver BCM4313 is new and a little peculiar (i.e. does not have a standard driver for working properly - others use the STA wl module, others use the native brcm module - according to their laptop model). According to my opinion it needs a more updated version of linux to operate properly. And if you search the net, it seems that it works far better when using the native brcm drivers already installed within the newest kernels.

Also, zorin 5.2 are based on ubuntu 11.04 for which Canonical has stopped the support. Zorin 6.1 is based on ubuntu 12.04 which is an LTS version and will be supported till 2017.

You could download the iso of zorin 6.1, create a live CD or USB and test it out.

If I had your laptop infront of me, I believe that I could make it work, but I consider that your life will be easier if you install Zorin 6 (after ofcourse backing up all your important files).

Zoro1044

Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:11:01 am

I have 6.1 32bit on a usb stick I will try then let you know how I got on.
Thanks for your time

Zoro1044

Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:33:19 pm

6.1 32 bit installed and at this point the problem is still the same. I will carry on later as it is 1:30 am here in NZ.

madvinegar

Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:14:12 pm

Ok, when you have time, do all the necessary updates/upgrades, restart, check if you have internet connection and post back the results of
Code:
sudo lshw -c network
sudo rfkill list all


The update/upgrade can be done as follows (you need internet/ethernet connection for that):
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Zoro1044

Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:23:02 pm

Hi MV I have installed OS-6.1 distro 3.2.0-33 and updated. Nothing has changed I still can't get BCM4313 to connect. I have installed
bcmwl-kernel-source 5.100.82.38 and b43-fwcutter 1:015-9.. Here is the latest post for you.

paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo lshw -c network
[sudo] password for paula:
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
logical name: eth1
version: 01
serial: 00:1b:b1:a2:b7:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=5.100.82.38 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: irq:16 memory:f4c00000-f4c03fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: Yukon Optima 88E8059 [PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller with AVB]
vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 11
serial: 00:24:54:e6:19:ea
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sky2 driverversion=1.30 firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
resources: irq:42 memory:f3820000-f3823fff ioport:b000(size=256) memory:f3800000-f381ffff
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo rfkill list all
0: hci0: Bluetooth
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
1: brcmwl-0: Wireless LAN
Soft blocked: no
Hard blocked: no
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$

madvinegar

Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:05:57 am

First of all try this
Code:
sudo modeprobe wl

Do you see your wifi turning on?
If yes, we can make it turn on, on every startup.

Only if not, do the following:

1) Go to additional drivers and remove the STA Broadcom driver.
2) Open ubuntu tweak, go to the last tab named "janitor" and then to "package config", scroll down to locate the package named "bcmwl-kernel-source" and delete it.
3) Reboot and see if you got your internet working. You may need to run
Code:
sudo modprobe brcm80211
or
Code:
sudo modprobe brcmsmac


If again you don't see the wifi operating, post again back the result of
Code:
sudo lshw -c network

Zoro1044

Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:53:28 am

Followed your instructions and still not connecting. Now here's a curve ball. I don't think it sees my Router ( Tenda Wireless N Model W268R) but picks up my neighbours either side of me. Which is strange as my 3 wifi adapters and a HP desktop connect without problems. If I plug an adapter in it shows both cards Broadcom BMC4313 802.11b/g/n , Ralink 802.11 bg Wlan greyed out but won't connect to router. Unplug adapter and and both wireless cards vanish from drop down box. Install STA driver and adapter only will connect see and connect with WPA password.


paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo modprobe brcm80211
[sudo] password for paula:
FATAL: Module brcm80211 not found.
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo modprobe brcmsmac
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$ sudo lshw -c network *-network
description: Wireless interface
product: BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
vendor: Broadcom Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
logical name: wlan0
version: 01
serial: 00:1b:b1:a2:b7:ba
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=brcmsmac driverversion=3.2.0-33-generic-pae firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
resources: irq:16 memory:f4c00000-f4c03fff
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: Yukon Optima 88E8059 [PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Controller with AVB]
vendor: Marvell Technology Group Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 11
serial: 00:24:54:e6:19:ea
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sky2 driverversion=1.30 firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair
resources: irq:42 memory:f3820000-f3823fff ioport:b000(size=256) memory:f3800000-f381ffff
paula@paula-QX310-QX410-QX510-SF310-SF410-SF510:~$

madvinegar

Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:07:32 am

Zoro1044 wrote:I don't think it sees my Router ( Tenda Wireless N Model W268R) but picks up my neighbours either side of me.


Wait one moment.
I am trying to turn on your internal wireless network card using the native drivers, and more specifically the "brcmsmac".
If I undrestand well your above statement, we have managed to get into life your wireless card, but you have just not been able to connect to your router. But the wireless card is working and picks up your neigbour's router!

This is a completely different issue!
If necessary, for testing purposes, disable temporarily the security of your router (or try switching it to WEP) and try to connect.
But the main thing is that we finally got your wireless working!

As I said, do not enable the STA driver. It conflicts with the native brcmsmac driver. Also the native driver is far better.

Zoro1044

Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:32:11 am

Hi MV in my last post I stated that the card was seeing my neighbours networks and not mine, I did not see them until I upgraded to 6.1. Reading your last post I reset my router to factory settings and set up all settings on all machines to suit. The laptop now connects as does all boxes due to the installed brcmsmac driver.
Thank you for your help and most of all your patience. I am thinking of upgrading all my boxes to 6.1 having learnt of some of "The Kwerks" in the different ways to 5.2 that some of the software works. You can mark this as solved.
Once again thanks.

madvinegar

Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:04:42 am

I am very very glad I helped and that we got it working!