Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby Swarfendor437 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:49 pm

Well it is interesting to note that when you login to 8 you have to be connected to the internet - I asked my eldest to set up an account for herself if she ever wanted to have a 'play' - when setting up the account it asks for a recovery password in case M$ does not 'recognise' the user - if that isn't spyware I don't know what is! :lol:

and I really think this is down to all the X-Box gubbins that is put inside of Games - but of course, I could be wrong - they just need the stats for how many times you login to Redmond! :mrgreen:

I have had my 8.1 drive disconnected for a couple of months while I installed GNU/Linux OS's on other drives as I did have an issue with one OS that automatically put GRUB on my Win 7 drive - which I will have to reinstall at the weekend as my M$ installer service has gone west - so no updates will stick - the August ones might have been the culprit - I get one set saying installed, then after reboot, failed installs 'ad infinitum'! :(
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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby jparekh » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:30 pm

Hi Swarfendor437,

Your last response seems to be misplaced. Presumably, you were responding to another thread.

Re getting Adepto to work on zorin, I was wondering if you (or anyone) had any luck.

Interim, I did some looking around myself. WineHQ forums are littered with voIP apps that do not work - crashes, logging in problems, connection problems, etc. So, my voIP softphone not working on Zorin may be a WINE issue.

I also looked at alternatives - voIP softphones for Linux and found quite a few. I even got a couple of them to work - the easiest being Linphone. Using SIP information, I am able to use my Adepto credit to make phone calls from Linphone!!

A couple of problems though.
1) I have 300 contacts in my Adepto account which are not possible to import to Linphone.
2) My original voIP softphone provided a nifty Phone to Phone option (vs. PC to Phone) which allowed me to connect my home phone to the number I was calling (as opposed to connecting to such number directly from PC). I used this a few times a day as the Mrs. prefers to talk over the phone.

Problem 1 is laborious, but doable. Problem 2 though, can only be solved if I find a voIP softphone that accepts SIP information and runs either on WINE or Zorin AND provides a Phone to Phone feature..........
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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby Swarfendor437 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:41 pm

HI, know it was in response to the Win8 spyware bit you posted? ;)

I will try that demo mode now and see if it works! :D

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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby Swarfendor437 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:48 pm

OK, no joy - this is what happens:

Screenshot Voip.png


and it flashes a few times! Just checking that the asterisk should not be 'at'?
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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby Swarfendor437 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:50 pm

Another famous client was 'Ekiga' but it requires port forwarding capabilities on routers - my Netgear one at the time did not support it - haven't tried on the asus one I have at present!

Here are some others to try - take a look at the open source bits - you will need to scroll down:

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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby jparekh » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:07 am

Hello again Swarfendor437,

Thanks for that wikipedia link to Unix SIP software. I tried a few of the SIP software listed without luck. I suppose "importing" my contact list from Adepto is not going to be possible. Doing a "phone to phone" ain't going to be possible either. I will input my contacts in Linphone and live without the "phone to phone" facility. The NEED to for the "phone to phone" functionality forced me look for voIP providers other than Adepto. And, I found quite a few that offer such functionality directly from a web site (through the browser, vs using an application). Maybe it's time to move on to one of these.

In the scheme of things, it's a small compromise for a bigger cause - viz., progressing from W ----> Z!! Chalk me up as a convert!!!!

It's been 4 days since I booted up Win XP. I'll give it another couple of weeks before doing a complete disk wipe, do away with XP and install Zorin 100%.
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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby Swarfendor437 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:57 pm

Before you give up entirely, can you run 'dependency.exe' to find out what .dll's are in use when that app is running and you can manually add these to wine.cfg window on the Libraries tab! ;)

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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby jparekh » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:49 pm

No luck again.

Here is what I did. I started up dependencywalker under WINE and loaded my voIP's exe file which gave me a list of .dll files. I then went to wine.cfg --> Libraries and added the .dll files. While adding some .dll's, I got the following message: "Changing the load order of this library is not recommended - do you want to continue?" to which I responded with Cancel.

I am curious - when I add .dll files to the wine.cfg, they show up under "Existing Overrides". The "Edit" option for these .dll in the Existing Overrides window defaults to "Native then Builtin". I presume, the Native dll's are from Windows and the Builtin are from WINE - am I right? How does WINE know where to get the Windows dll's from? And what happens if I do not have a dual boot and only install Zorin? Where will WINE get the native dll's from then?

Another question: should I run dependencywalker on the voIP installation exe, find out what dlls that uses and add those to wine.cfg as well (and then reinstall the voIP program)?
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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby Swarfendor437 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:01 pm

Hi, I was thinking if you hadn't lost Windows already that you ran the software on to run the dependency.exe to see what is running - Wine has a set of .dll files already - remember, WINE = Wine is No Emulator - it uses native dll's to windows - they may not all be showing - when you want to add a .dll - say so and choose one from what is on offer (they are alphabetical) only if there is not a .dll listed in wine do you enter one manually. ;) From recollection, native is Windows and built in ones relate to Wine - this really means that if you are installing a Windows application such as Office you need to have Native then built-in in that order. ;)
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Re: Adios Zorin, God knows I tried

Postby blfriis » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:33 pm

Hi
Once I had a problem installing a program with wine some missing dll's.. all I did was copy the entire folder from a xp machine, and then paste the folder into "C" in the wine folder then I reinstalled the program and it worked.. It was dvd profiles now I use gcstar instead and I don't know if it would work with voIP.
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