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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Maerskian » Thu May 12, 2016 12:38 am

Swarfendor437 wrote:Hi Maerskian,

I think I might have imagined the French server - I just know it was in Europe - and it was the only country in Europe listed at the time (think it was deepin 13 or 14 - age causing memory issues - must get more RAM inserted into Grey Matter! :lol: )


Not necessarily my friend :) ; i'm aware they have been working on their servers since they have had issues with them even since the very moment Deepin 15.1 was released, many users complained about it on their forums.

Also, i didn't recognize many new servers today compared to the last time i checked... so it's very possible a french server was avaliable last time you checked ^__^ .

By the way, the russian Yandex server worked quite well ... dowloaded 300+ mb of updates within 4-5 minutes or so. It might not sound like much speed-wise... but it's the fastest updates pack i've ever downloaded while using Deepin, so i'm happy enough :) .

Anyway, the 'slingshot' apps launcher appears to be temperamental when switching between panel modes (Fashion (Mac look), Efficient (Windows panel look), Classic (Aero? - similar to Efficient but larger!).


I let it stay on "dock-mode" mainly, but played a little with the efficient/classic modes ( all funny names by the way :) ) and didn't experience any issue... and it's been installed for a good while on my old ( and only ) laptop... this one :

http://www.cnet.com/products/hp-compaq- ... hdd/specs/

It might be around 8 years old already, but works quite well :)

Maybe it's some hardware compatibility issue ? It'd be weird, considering Debian tends to get along with older hardware ( in my experience at the very least )

Clementine doesn't seem to work as nicely as it used to and it could be down to the new kernels.


Hmmm... was planning on trying it soon now you are kinda discouraging me already :lol:

In terms of Win10 I just use it for free games from the 'Store' and have just recently added the 'Beacon' but I don't intend to upgrade any of the Windows 7 machines to Win 10 here - I will stick with the Fast Ring Dev release until they pull the plug on it.


And it might be for the best . Quite honestly, Windows 10 feels ancient and just made on the last minute to erase the Windows 8.1 interface off people's minds .

It was supposed to be resource friendly ( compared to previous versions ) ... and looks like it is... and also looks like it could be a nice OS... but for that to happen you have to do an incredible amount lot of work ( clean it off MS spyware, configure plenty stuff just to be sure the system works as it should from the very beginning, configure the options to work properly with SSDs, configure the launcher to be more intuitive/easier to use than how it is by default ... , watch out for suspicious updates, install & configure AV & firewall properly , install additional privacy/security software ... ) ... on top of installing & configuring drivers for everything, reboot a dozen times... and even so... you're left with an OS that still uses NTFS with its high fragmentation rate... in 2016 !!!!! ... the only ones still sticking to such ancient filesystem nowadays if i'm not mistaken... it's even hard to believe !!

I first started out with a ZX Spectrum 128 with heat sink - I made a slight profit on it when I sold it - which I did because I wanted to program it for budgeting - there was a built in ROM fault so you could not create more records than 1000 entries! Plus, remember 'colour' on a spectrum? 3 bands of different horizontal hue!


Oh... how could i forget about it ? :D ... those were the days... waiting almost one whole hour anxiously just to play one game while enjoying all those weird signals coming out of the tape... back when i was younger, even wanted to believe there was some coded message on it and always tried hard to find a sequence or something i could break :mrgreen:
I even remember being amazed by seeing so many colours at once on the same screen and yelling the usual "it's the same as the arcade!!! " ... while, of course, it really wasn't ...

My next purchase was an Amiga 1500 (which I still have) and later the Amiga CD32 (which I also still have) - the Amiga 1500 got an upgrade about 5 years after purchase selling old diecast Cars and other toys at a famous auction house. It currently has a SCSI 1 Gb drive and 4 Mb Zip Ram and was faster at boot and shut-down than my Windows 98 rig running on AMD400 Processor and 128 Mb RAM! :D


I got myself the Amiga 500 while i was still living in Germany. Shortly after moved to Spain with my parents and... well, it was a small village/town back then ( nowadays it's WAY bigger ) so i was the "king" of my neighborhood... i even sported an "otherworldy" and never seen before 1mb extension plus an external disk drive ... around that time, that was too much to handle around here ... but an Amiga 1500 ... oh my... that's a major machine you had there ;-)

By the way... i throwed my old Amiga 500 to the bin many years ago.... tears of regret surface my cheeks every time i think about it T__T

And at the same time bought my first PC, a grey P120 which I upgraded to an Evergreen Processor - AMD 400 Processor - [not the same machine as mentioned running 98!].


I just ended up switching to a 66mhz pc from a relative, then to a Pentium 100... then another Pentium at 200mhz... and from that very point i became loyal to AMD, and that's what i bought ... until time passed and bought the 2 most recent computers from my signature given current circumstances :/ ... it's a pity AMD downsized that much, they always managed to stay ahead of intel for a good while .

Well now I have Deepin with Cross-Over I will see what games I can get running on that! :D


I'm the all-or-nothing type when it comes to games unfortunately... didn't play in 15 years... but now i paid for a gamer GPU and a few games... i'm going to check as much as i can... with the little time i have for such things T__T

Just to add, Makulu 10 "Aero" was not updateable, due to issues with Cinammon and Mate - Makulu 11 is out in about 2 weeks time from date of me posting this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HpRxulW3pg


Will be checkign Makulu 11. By the way, thanks for mentioning Makulu and other distros ( SolydXK for example ) ; didn't stop to check 'em out while glancing around distrowatch... and your feedback just encouraged me to check 'em out .

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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Swarfendor437 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:58 pm

OK, So MakuluLinux latest release is called 'LinDoz'. It's 'de facto' theming upon running live and after install is Windows 10 with a black panel at the bottom and a black menu - check out Jacques video here:

https://youtu.be/s7kOp9EIlnc

Now here is list of issues I had after install - I would post to the makulu forums but I get a 'blocked' message' when I log into the site so I will have to post here:

1. Sound does work but if you go in Settings the 'Test Sound' just does not run! nada! Play a sound track or YouTube video - no issues. Screenreader does not run - period.

2. Default browser is Google Chrome - so you will now realise that MakuluLinux LinDoz only comes in 64-bit flavour. One of its let downs is the fact that whilst the Menu mimicks Windows 7 layout, just like ZorinMenu there is no keybinding - if you reset the panel to defaults you get a 'Mate/Mint' looking Menu - but then the Windows Key binding does work - and you get the word 'Menu' appearing next to a 'Mint' logo.

3. It comes with WPS (also known as 'Kingsoft') Office (Writer Presentation Spreadsheet) - this will not work with ANY screenreader on ANY platform!

So, the first thing to go was Google Chrome - why? They still owe my country unpaid taxes - unpaid taxes helps this Government to bulldoze through its 'austerity measures' because they, like the previous Government, failed to push HMRC (that is the UK equivalent of the US's IRS) to pursue corporate tax dodgers like Google and Amazon among others.

Next, spyware Zeitgeist was removed.

Then 'gnome-calculator' was removed and replaced with 'accessibility-friendly' 'galculator' for those who have difficulty seeing any other calculator on any platform 'galculaor' is the best out there!
[https://vimeo.com/95682732]

Going back to the Orca issue, I tried to install all the codecs as per Wolfman's instructions on here (post-install guide] - still nothing - I also searched synaptic for screenreader alternatives - installed everything but could not get it to run.

Installs - First Firefox - but this too would not allow uploads of images in MakuluLinux LinDoz so I am writing this up in Opera 12.16.

I then had an issue replacing WPS with LibreOffice - I had 'held packages' etc and finally circumvented the issue but then had a permissions issue with LibreOffice so I had to follow advice on this issue elsewhere on other forums/help sites. It is really really fast at lalunching. I am currently running MakuluLinux on the drive that had Zorin 9 Ulitmate 32-bit as I messed up my install messing with Compiz I believe.

So now, how to get round the Wndows key to be bound to the menu? Solution:

!. Install GnoMenu - AWN has no candidates to be installed to Makulu - solution? Install Cairo-Dock - on selecting it as a separate DE at login just kept me in the eternal login-loop - managed to launch Cairo-Dock from the termnal then told it to boot at each subsequent run.

For comparison purposes, here is Makulu panel which I have moved to the top, with an XP themed DE with the XP style menu only working via the mouse:

07.jpg


And at the bottom is Cairo-Dock with GnoMenu present, bound to the Wndows key with Cairo-Dock Tux'n'Color' clock below the default clock of Makulu and above the '2 hourly' 'Quotes' app. - Loved the Tommy Cooper gag the other day: 'So I ring up a local building merchant, and I said to him "I want a skip outside my house". He said "I'm not stopping you!" [just like that, hah, hah, hah.]

11.jpg


Sadly, the Weather Applet of Cairo Dock that worked in Zorin does not run at all well in Makulu! So hence it's absence.

So Why bother with XP Theme? Well with the 'harsh' brightness of Windows that came out later, and thinking of appalling Office 365/2013, XP theming is pleasant to the eyes

53.jpg


- so well done Jacque for making a desktop for all (potentially) ex-Windows users - it is just a shame that the Windows look does not follow through to the Menu like GnoMenu only appears to do so, i.e,, binding of the Windows key.
Just to add the screenshot app does not have a timer so I had to revert to the keyboard command of shift and printscreen (SysRq key) to bring up 'selection' to take 'windowed' shots.
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Maerskian » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:44 am

@Swarfendor437

Thanks a lot for the extensive post :) . Certainly the new Makulu looks great ^__^

Unfortunately this time i'm delivering bad news ... as it seems PinguyOS will be shutting down really soon :|

Source: http://pinguyos.com/2016/05/thinking-ab ... pinguy-os/

Thinking about killing off Pinguy OS

by PINGUY on 19/05/2016 in PINGUYOS

Thinking about killing off Pinguy OS. It is costing me more to run than I get from the project. The project is a sink hole.

For the last 12 months I have been personally financing the project to keep it afloat.

http://i.imgur.com/pcL0svy.png
(right click open in new tab for full view)

The project isn’t self-financing anymore. I thought Pinguy-Builder would help fund the project, but it hasn’t helped. 120hrs to produce Pinguy-Builder/fork Remaster was a complete waste of time.

I even tried doing a bounty for elementary OS to keep the project afloat, but they don’t pay out: http://i.imgur.com/hv9aG6D.jpg
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I loved making Pinguy OS and interacting with the open source projects and helping them, but at some point you have to call it a day.

At least I have made a difference. Bodhi, Linux Lite and Budgie Remix I had a hand in helping getting them started.

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It's a real pity... the personalization level of the main desktop was quite interesting, but even more so the fact it was pre-configured with activated firewall, privacy settings, options to extend battery's life on laptops, app's preload... and some more ... things most people would love to have ready to use instead of wasting time doing this kind of mechanical tasks .
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Swarfendor437 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:03 pm

Hi Maerskian, It is not fully extensive review - it too comes with Clam AV and Firewall running out of the box - so apart from Google Chrome spy (but to be fair the settings are turned off - though you never can tell what is running deep with Google!) and Zeitgeist the platform is pretty secure. It is always a sad day when any project folds - Wolvix was the best for drilling down graphics to the lowest level on old kit like a Toshiba Sattelite Pro with only 256 Mb RAM! The only other item I forgot to state is that there appears to be lots of xsane backends but no apps like 'Simple Scan' which works out of the box with my all-in-one on Deepin 15.1 32-bit but does NOT work in Zorin 9 32-bit! ;) :D
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Swarfendor437 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:32 pm

Some more MakuluLinux 'LinDoz' screenshots for you:

Win10 black:

Win10black.jpg


Zorin 8 Black - now I found an applet to add launchers to the Panel! Yay!: {Note I had to download this theme - there are themes for Zorin 6, 8, and 10]

Zorin8 black.jpg
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Swarfendor437 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:19 am

Now this is what Zorin could do with for migrators:

Makulu-Toolbox.jpg
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby svx-biker » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:45 pm

For quite some time I haven't read something about PCLinuxOS.

I use PCLinuxOS with the MATE Desktop since about 2 years and one think I really like is the fact that I don't have to install new versions. Rather I update about bi-weekly and have the latest updates with this rolling model.
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Swarfendor437 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:23 am

My favorite PALOS was 2007. My biggest gripe with PALOS was their 'sacking' of it's main developer after he took 12 month's sabbatical leave from the project, that plus the bizarre behavior of wireless no longer working after changing locale from US to UK!
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby svx-biker » Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:16 am

I remember that leave was quite a bad thing to the distro. I also remember the time when the live USB wouldn't connect to my wireless - only after installation it was ok and that kept many users from even installing it.

Today there's mainly the issue that 32-bit is withdrawn. However, that will probably happen with many distros in the near future.

But I still like the setup very much. I can even run the 64-bit Mate on an old Laptop with just 1GB RAM.
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Re: Other OS's Discussion Board!

Postby Swarfendor437 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:41 pm

Well, what can I say? A distribution that listens! Galculator by default in Ultimate Edition 5.0 Lite (and i386 = 32-bit) customised version of Ubuntu Mate - so nice:

Ultimate Edition 5.0 Lite i386A.jpg
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