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workspaces are gone

firejack

Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:04:55 pm

bear zorin community,
yesterday I installed Zorin and loved one feature right away, clicking middle mouse button and changing the workspace, (the 3D cube thing)
but then I went along and installed 62 updates plus an additional (video)driver.
and now it the work spaces seems to be not working.

and enabled the following options in the " compizconfig settings manager " (that look important for the 3d cube)
*Gnome compatibility
*desktop cube
*rotate cube
*expo
*viewpoint switcher
*3d windows
* animations
*cube 3d models
*ring switcher
*put


does anyone know what I should do?
I really want the cube back.


regards
firejack

firejack

Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:29:00 am

swarfendor437 wrote:It would help if you gave us the following information:

1. Make of PC/Laptop
2. Graphics card/chipset
3. Whether you clicked on Upgrade! - Don't!

If you have an older nVidia graphics card for example, I have found that the experimental Nouveau driver works best. If you have an AMD/ATI card you may have to do a manual install of the driver/ATI Catalyst.

In CompizConfig Settings manager - deformation should also be checked.


1. Its an alienware M11x, and I have zorin installed alongside windows
2. 1GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 335M
Mobile Intel® GS45-chipset
3. I dont recall clicking on Upgrade, I just installed the updates with the update manager, and the "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver ( version current) [recommended]

also with the deformation turned on it gave me some errors stating that some bindings where already in use, I "resoled" the "problem"


regards
firejack

Obsidian1723

Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:25:19 pm

I know I harp on this a lot, but are you not running the LTS (3.1) version of Zorin OS? If you are using Zorin 4, it's based on Ubuntu 10.10, Zorin 5 on 11.04, neither of which are LTS / Stabe versions of Ubuntu > Zorin OS.

firejack

Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:20:58 pm

Obsidian1723 wrote:I know I harp on this a lot, but are you not running the LTS (3.1) version of Zorin OS? If you are using Zorin 4, it's based on Ubuntu 10.10, Zorin 5 on 11.04, neither of which are LTS / Stabe versions of Ubuntu > Zorin OS.


I've Zorin 5, 64 bits verison
maybe a stupid question, but what is a LTS? :oops:

and is there a way to eneble my beloved floating cube again?

Obsidian1723

Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:18:26 pm

firejack wrote:
Obsidian1723 wrote:I know I harp on this a lot, but are you not running the LTS (3.1) version of Zorin OS? If you are using Zorin 4, it's based on Ubuntu 10.10, Zorin 5 on 11.04, neither of which are LTS / Stabe versions of Ubuntu > Zorin OS.


I've Zorin 5, 64 bits verison
maybe a stupid question, but what is a LTS? :oops:

and is there a way to eneble my beloved floating cube again?


No question is stupid.

LTS = Long Term Support release. Zorin OS is based on Ubuntu, therefore it follows the same paradigm.

Ubuntu releases a new LTS every 2 years and the desktop version has 3 years of support and the server version has 5 years of support. LTS releases get updated with "point" releases aka 10.04LTS is the inital release, followed by .1 .2 .3 and then .4 a few months before the next LTS release. Right now, Ubuntu 10.04.3LTS is the current Ubuntu LTS release.

Every 6 months, Ubuntu releases unstable versions as testing out new code and features for Ubuntu's next LTS release. All Ubuntu releases come out in April and October. The first number in the release is the year, so 10.04 is Year 2010 (10) and April (04), thus 10.04. 8.04 is an LTS, 10.04 is the currrent LTS and the next LTS will be 12.04. In between 8.04LTS and 10.04LTS came 8.10, 9.04, 9.10. These 3 versions do not have as long of support as an LTS and the code is tested a lot less than it is for an LTS because by the time an LTS is pushed out the door, it's had 2 years of work on it already.

So now that 10.04 is out and it is the current LTS, the NON-LTS versions, and the current UNstable versions are, 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10.

ANY Linux distro which is based on Ubuntu has these same stability/instability support time lines as well.

Zorin OS 3.0 is based on Ubuntu 10.04LTS
Zorin OS 3.1 is based on Ubuntu 10.04.3LTS <--this is the one to get.
Zorin OS 4.0 is based on Ubuntu 10.10
Zorin OS 5.0/5.1 is based on Ubuntu 11.04
Zorin OS 6.0 will most likely be based on Ubuntu 11.10

Zorin OS comes from Ubuntu and Ubuntu comes from Debian.

Debian is developed in 3 stages and the code is pulled from 3 repositories...

debian-unstable - the newest, wettest code - which when fixed, graduates to the next stage....
debian-testing - Not quite stable, but better than debian-uunstable
debian-stable - this is where Debian releases come from.

Debian releases rarely and oftne has older software versions in it, but it's tock solid stable.

Ubuntu LTS pulls from debian-testing (and by proxy, so does Zorin OS LTS since it's based on Ubuntu LTS)
Ubuntu NON-LTS pulls from debian-unstable (and so does Zorin OS's NON-LTS versions)

It's called "Debian-UNSTABLE" for a reason. That reason being, it's UNSTABLE.

firejack

Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:25:54 am

so, I have to either wait till zorin 5 is stable witch will take until somewhere mid 2013, or I downgrade to zorin 3.1?

Obsidian1723

Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:37:28 pm

Non-LTS releases will never be "Stable" as an LTS is.

That being said, back when Ubuntu 9.10 cam out, I had major issues with it becuase some pretty important features stopped working for me. 9.04 ran fine for me, but 9.10 did not. For some people, 9.10 was would they would call "stable" because everything worked fine for them. For some p[eople 9.10 worked well, for others, it didn't. That's also true of an LTS release, but the differences I explained in a previous posting above; so I will add onto that now with this:

Due to the fact that there is 2 years of testing between LTS releases (that's what all of those Non-LTS releases are really for - they are beta versions for testing out new code for the next LTS release), and while no software is perfect, (including LTS releases), chances are pretty good that and LTS release is going to be much more stable and work for more people on a wider variety of systems than a Non-LTS will.

If you want LTS in Zorin OS, download 3.1 and install it over Zorin )S 5.x.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/zorin/3/

liviococcia

Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:23:44 am

Hello Firejack, I kind of had the same issues, if you read the following 'thread' below especially the last postings, you might strike it lucky..

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=976&start=10

...doing this got my 3D cube 'workspaces' back using the middle mouse button, hope it works for you.

regards

firejack

Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:03:54 pm

liviococcia wrote:Hello Firejack, I kind of had the same issues, if you read the following 'thread' below especially the last postings, you might strike it lucky..

http://zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 6&start=10

...doing this got my 3D cube 'workspaces' back using the middle mouse button, hope it works for you.

regards


thanks, I'm gonna try that when I have the time.
I'll let you know if it worked :D


regards